Natural Wonder Fellowship

I have been assured that 'religion' is not the same as 'belief in a god'. I wonder if that means that organized religion, or "the church" (whichever one you mean), has corrupted the message so badly that its former adherents are moving to new interpretations? As for the supernatural, people are doubtful there's any such thing. There are some things we can't yet explain but I believe they are totally natural in that we will learn enough to explain them. The answers to complex questions have never been magic or superstition or pseudoscience. To claim that your daily life is a 'gift', or that your own efforts and hard work have no value diminishes our own accomplishments and reduces us to dependent children or sheep.  We, as humans with minds, can perceive our talents ('gifts') in the material world as separate from a deity (called 'duality', maybe?). According to the Zoroastrians, Plato(~430BCE) had similar ideas (tho there is som

It's not even Thursday, but still, I think LOL. How do you stop yourself from having ideas, thoughts? How do you stop yourself from thinking? Why would you even want to? How can you look at a photo of someone with their hair sticking up and out all over and not think "jeez, s/he needs a brush"? Is that "judgmental"? Or is that just human? We have thousands of thoughts a day, some more significant than others. What shall I wear today? What must I do today? Where did I leave my shoes? Was that thing I just heard on the radio (TV, YouTube, whatever) true? It sounds kinda weird...   Know when someone is trying to manipulate you. Question everything that sounds a bit odd - the 2020 presidential election was stolen (but none of the other questions on the ballots that were cast that same election day were stolen)? The earth is flat (but we've known since antiquity that we can climb the hill to see farther)? It only takes a little to reject ridiculosity outright or

Thoughts on christianity bring me so much confusion. Not even discussing the many contradictory stories,  just the confusing or unanswered bits of some of the claims of various christian sects. To begin with, why and how do so many claim the Old Testament doesn't really count anymore? Only Jesus Christ and the New Testament stories matter, some say. These same people also claim the Ten Commandments matter, that JC was foretold (prophesied) by the OT, and that the OT god created everything in the universe (nearly as I can tell, the universe is an add-on; scripture says god created "the heavens" as in sky and stars at night). They pray to God, Lord, Father, and similar and end a prayer with "in the name of JC our savior" or something similar. So, I guess my initial question here is:  1.  If the Old Testament doesn't matter (except for certain bits you like) what did anyone need saving from? Why did JC need to exist as a human at all? (we're told JC came t

Hello Thursday 18 Feb. I usually call this day of the week Thoughtful Thursday.  I was thinking, wondering why 'christians' accept bible stories 'on faith'. Have you ever wondered why bible god doesn't want you to think or question? Not only doesn't want you to question, but actively discourages knowledge, wisdom, or fact-finding. Instead, this 'god' encourages being child-like (or sheep-like)? What is one thing we can all agree on about being a child? A child will believe what they're told because their rational mind is not yet developed. We develop critical thinking skills as we grow. The bible 'god' discourages intellect and free thought and tries to confuse us. 1 Corinthians KJV: 1:19 - "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."; 1:27 - "But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise, and God hath chosen the weak things of

Such an interesting day, hahaha! Kinda like the 'Chinese blessing' of 'may you live in interesting times', maybe? Received e-mail FDA notice of investigation into a listeria outbreak in 'Hispanic-style fresh and soft cheese' in multiple states, including Maryland. The link provided wasn't all that helpful in identifying the specific cheeses. Swell! WTH is 'Hispanic-style fresh and soft cheese'? Is that what's in my bag of shredded '4 cheese Mexican style' cheese that I put on or in some dishes? Ok, Google,  what is Hispanic-style fresh and soft cheese called  and it answered me, LOL. That thing is sometimes amazing. It's fine, the bag has cheese names not mentioned in the notice. Also, turns out that the notice seems to be for the blocks of the affected cheeses?  I don't even like cheese remember. Hubby #2 was Wisconson born and raised. He taught me a bit about cheeses. I grew to kinda sorta a little bit like Monterey Jack. We

Hello people. I often post about 'think', as in think for yourself, be aware, be rational, be logical. I was kinda happy to see some people trying to do just that. Then I found that some of these people start 'thinking' with no basis in fact. From 'fake moon landing' to anti-vaxxers to Q-Anon, we must all start from known reality before we 'think-up' these wild conspiracies. If you mistake the salt canister for the sugar canister, your recipe is not going to turn out as you expect, and you adjust for next time. You've ruined one food dish. If you mistake the bible or the quran for a science book, your grasp of the real world will be badly skewed, but here you refuse to adjust. You may be ruining your life.  You, believer, tend to go from 'god created everything including humans and the entire universe is under 10,000 years old' to ' the moon landing was a hoax ' or 'the [American] election was stolen'. You become more  suscept

Hello people! It's Sunday, 7 Feb 2021. It's snowing (again). It's cold (still), and going to get even colder (again). It is winter in the northern hemisphere; it's supposed to be cold, LOL. The problem comes with it being colder for longer, or more frozen precipitation than "usual". Climate change is real, it is happening. Most people recognize this, especially when it's affecting them personally. Many on the west coast of the U.S. recognize that the Santa Anna winds are worse, the droughts are worse, causing the wildfires to be worse. Storms are worse, igniting wildfires (It's certainly isn't a ' Jewish space laser ' from early this year or a ' directed-energy weapon ' from 2018). Where do these crazy ideas come from? My personal opinion is a lack of education and lack of critical thinking skills. The Gizmodo piece mentioned above states "What we’re seeing is a convergence of longstanding American fears about government mind c

Hello, Friday. That 'religion' has tried to embed itself more and more into the U.S. government is a fact that few deny. The 'Evangelical Christians' have been supporting TheOrangeBuffoon since he realized he could manipulate them so easily. TOB simply spoke to their desire to have their religious doctrine become the law of the land. I read an interesting article the other day on the dilemma now facing those believers. Believers have been told their entire lives - don't think instead "Trust in god...  and lean not on your own understanding" and "in all your ways submit to him". There are dozens of similar sayings in their bible. That mindset is taught from their pulpits and by their parents. Maybe that's why Marjorie Taylor Greene 'regrets' that she was ' allowed to believe things that weren’t true' , and still be ' supported' by most of the GOP . " Allowed to believe " lies? -- what happened to check fact